High school girl acquitted of murdering baby born in restroom
The Nagaoka branch of the Niigata Family Court handed down the decision on the girl, who was an 18-year-old student at a prefectural high school in Nagaoka at the time of the incident in June last year.
Presiding Judge Fumio Kitamura ruled that the deposition that quotes her as saying that she deliberately dropped the baby into a bowl to drown him cannot be trusted. "Her actions do not constitute murder or any other crime."";
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http://mdn.mainichi.jp/national/news/20080314p2a00m0na007000c.html
I guess its possible that she accidentally killed the child if she put it in a bowl of water that was too cold, but apparently the child was drowned, so i dunno...What amazed me most about this story is that no-one noticed that she was pregnant at any point during her pregnancy.
It must have been an aweful time for her, however IMHO she's hardly a juvenile at 18years old, in my country she would be considered an adult, so she must have known what she was doing was wrong- i wonder what punishment she will get for this whole ordeal...?
You just don't get these loose-ends running around trying to blow up abortion clinics here, so much at all-comparatively, and having a child. . . puts things in a rather different light. I will take the position that I feel sorry for the girl...not in a negative way, but in a positive one.
By a Japanese law,
1. When she killed a baby with the urge to kill,
Murder is applied.
2. When she has killed a baby in an accident at the time of the birth in a lavatory,
Protection person in charge involuntary homicide
An abandonment fatal crime
3. When a baby already died at the time of the birth,
Innocence
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/news/20080313-OYT1T00556.htm
Hiroyuki, I think you will find 遺棄致死罪 is "Reckless abandonment resulting in death, involuntary manslaughter".
Anyway, the news is full of holes, noone really knows what happend, but I find it starnge that a droped child has nothing to show for it. She said the baby sliped and she droped it, why was that not brought up in court? Maybe it was ?
Well if the legal system is anything to go by with parents killing their child (like the ones who play pachinko for 7 hours straight and leave their kids in the car) even she did do it intentionally and was convicted, she would only be talked to harshly and sent home, maybe grounded for a few days from her parents.:okashii:
Man, the Chinese guy who stole a few pekochans got 8 years in prison, the courts saying that it caused emotional stress to whoever, then that very next week a women who left her child in a car will gambling that died was sentenced to 3 years, and be let out after 1 year on good behaivour. Yep, I can see where those decisions came from... NOT!
Japanese school girls wear big bulky sweaters over their uniforms and they're quite petite to begin with. We think therefore they'd show more, but they're really only filling-out to the average size of a Westerner in some cases. Maybe people just thought she was getting fat. Birth could have also been premature, stress-induced, etc.
Well, would you volunteer to be dragged through the same mess as she was? Besides, she will be marked and shunned for life.
People will just go: "Oh yeah, wasn't it you who took her child out in the loo?"
Well the concept is the same. Only the means differ a bit.
Anyhow, stupidity and the lack of healthy selfishness always receives its punishment, this case is no different. The child died, its sad yeah. Not that im particularly surprised about all this, this wouldn't be the first time, nor the last.
Anyhow, stupidity and the lack of healthy selfishness always receives its punishment, this case is no different. The child died, its sad yeah. Not that im particularly surprised about all this, this wouldn't be the first time, nor the last.
What punishment, she was acquitted of all charges.
But anyway...we only know what the news are telling us and making judgements based on only one source might not be the wisest thing to do despite her act...
She had nine months to make a decision about what to do and in the end she choose the path that ended up killing the baby. If that isn't at least pre-meditated reckless endangerment I don't know what is. I'm not saying she should be punished, necessarily, but she shouldn't be able to just walk away.
Normally eighteen is enough, but she herself is the proof that its only enough normally, usually. Its not like you can really draw a line and say that from this age on this is normal, and that is not.
Are you equating abortion to dropping a live baby into a toilet and drowning him?
her local community will know, as somebody will know she did it, tell someone, who tells someone else etc etc.
Just because the entire world doesn't know her name, she will still be shunned as long as she lives where she does. To live a more normal life (still filled with guilt I think) she will have to move away.
Also, not every pregnant woman has a huge lump on the front of their body. Some women have the womb centered rather than more to the front of the body, so she may not have shown much sight of pregnancy; only enough that people might say she was getting fat.
Joe
She had nine months to make a decision about what to do and in the end she choose the path that ended up killing the baby. If that isn't at least pre-meditated reckless endangerment I don't know what is. I'm not saying she should be punished, necessarily, but she shouldn't be able to just walk away.
People have to be responsible for their actions- IMHO, she's old enough at 18 to take responsibility for her actions and she must have known what she was doing was wrong- at the very least, she should be sent to a rehabilitation clinic to help her sort out her issues (if she has a heart, she must have tremendous issues from this whole ordeal).
By a Japanese law,
1. When she killed a baby with the urge to kill,
Murder is applied.
2. When she has killed a baby in an accident at the time of the birth in a lavatory,
Protection person in charge involuntary homicide
An abandonment fatal crime
3. When a baby already died at the time of the birth,
Innocence
This case,
A baby was 2700g.
At the time of the birth, she seems to have fainted.
The judge judged that it was a miscarriage.
However, the police seem to appeal to a higher court.
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/news/20080313-OYT1T00556.htm
The silly police often seem to do that kind of thing....
I hope she is again acquitted. Too much is being placed on the event, for too little outcome.
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