Tilt-shift Lens

  • I'm building my wish list for this fall and a tilt-shift lense for my nikon looks likely. Anyone on the forum have something like it? I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.


  • no . . . because not everything is that far away.


    edit
    and by no i meant yes, dummy moment

    dangit just read what abraxas wrote, thats what i meant. . . . just without explaining. holy cow i cannot figure out a way to get this thought out.


  • BTW, thanks for the link LP. Now my guts don't feel so bad looking at these. :)


  • ok . . . i clearly know nothing about optics.

    looks like i've got more reading to do than expected!


  • actually nothing is that far away.


  • oh wait, same dof with a larger aperture? . . . resulting in shorter shutter speeds, and less movement from wind?


  • Canon's Tilt and Shift lenses can Tilt AND shift at the same time

    That's right! I was thinking of tilting, shifting, and rotating the planes at the same time, which you need a view camera to do.


  • well, if wind is an issue, use a sturdy tripod and hang your camera bag on the center column.

    IMO, unless you need to use small format, you might as well be shooting large format if you need tilts or shifts. view cameras can tilt AND shift at the same time, small format T/S lenses can't.


  • well, if wind is an issue, use a sturdy tripod and hang your camera bag on the center column.

    IMO, unless you need to use small format, you might as well be shooting large format if you need tilts or shifts. view cameras can tilt AND shift at the same time, small format T/S lenses can't.

    Please bear with me, I love telling this story;

    Having developed myself into a somewhat streamlined, overweight, old man, the usual scenario consists of me loading up with the camera with the lense attached, a filter, a filter case, my cable release, my carbon fibre tripod, a canteen full of water and a clip-on watch with a sweep second hand, my old man glasses and a lense tissue in my wallet. I hike up some stupid gravelly, scree covered steep-pass hill to another just like it and sometimes one other one just to make me feel "alive." Of course I stop for a smoke every chance I get. I wait one to two hours and setup my shot series and go sit on a rock and have a smoke or two. During all this the air is as dead still as inside someone's mouth and I'm lathered in sweat like a little burro that's been carrying a fat-round priest to a mission. When the sun starts to set the wind can gust maybe 60 mph. Sometimes it just blows hard without a break. My life is too complicated to attach the camera bag/backpack (I'd have to go back to the truck and get it) securely to the tripod.

    I should'a just said I've tried it and it don't work for me.

    Besides, I think this type of solution would help me produce what I've been working on and I call, Totally Integrated Technically Solved, or TITS, photos. If there ever is a day where wind is not a factor I'll be prepared.

    The coolest thing is that if I get the Nikon lense I have justification to dump the d80 and get a d2x-or whatever it is...

    A wicked plan is developing.

    Looking at the prices on those lenses, they're so cheap!
    I'd love to have the control of tilt and shift for portrait shooting.

    They're cheap enough for me to try out... Next month though.


  • i haven't used the Nikkor T/S lenses, but I have used the Canon 90mm T/S. It has it proposes, but I think they're few.

    I'm thinking T/S to combat high and gusting wind conditions in landscapes and maintain depth of field while using higher iso and faster shutter speeds. Possibly in combination with using ND filters. I'm just tired of losing shots to the wind in long exposures. Make sense?- Ideas?


  • Looking at the prices on those lenses, they're so cheap!
    I'd love to have the control of tilt and shift for portrait shooting.


  • i haven't used the Nikkor T/S lenses, but I have used the Canon 90mm T/S. It has it proposes, but I think they're few.


  • Canon's Tilt and Shift lenses can Tilt AND shift at the same time


  • I'm thinking T/S to combat high and gusting wind conditions in landscapes and maintain depth of field while using higher iso and faster shutter speeds. Possibly in combination with using ND filters. I'm just tired of losing shots to the wind in long exposures. Make sense?- Ideas?

    Forgive me for being obtuse, but how is T/S going to combat any of those problems?


  • Forgive me for being obtuse, but how is T/S going to combat any of those problems?

    by using the shift you can gain more DOF with the same aperture
    page 23 explains it in more detail http://software.canon-europe.com/files/documents/EF_Lens_Work_Book_3_EN.pdf


  • These have just got some stunning reviews in the UK http://www.hartblei.eu/en/products.htm

    Never used a shift lens but I so much want the Canon 24mm


  • call me stupid... but when shooting landscapes, do you NEED greater DOF at lower apertures? isnt it all going to be in focuz if you're focused at infinity?


  • cool, i was wondering the same thing as max . . . looks like i have some reading to do!

    the wind conditions though? i don't understand, fill me in!


  • ... but when shooting landscapes, do you NEED greater DOF at lower apertures? isnt it all going to be in focuz if you're focused at infinity?

    Yes, insane DOF is essential and focus is not always at infinity because there are things closer like rocks, sticks, flowers, beer cans and bushes and streams etc. In the case of my 10-20mm, vertically, often my little toes and tripod leg.

    Tilting the lense will bring near and far objects into better focus and produce a more acceptable DOF and allow a larger aperture. With the larger aperture faster shutter speeds can be used limiting uncontrolled motion (blurred objects from wind).

    I have to look into the benefits of shifting.

    I think I'm getting into something, or times and lighting that is fractional. My favorite photos are right at, and a little beyond sunset, multiple exposures (sometimes totalling nearly 2 minutes) at f38 and iso 100.

    Ideally I'd like to go to using a graduated neutral density filter, iso 50 and small aperture (f22+). The wind is "blowing" it. ( :biglaugh: )


  • I have owned both the 28 and 35mm PC Nikkors not the current ones. Both are excellent optics. Both are preset lenses. Their main purpose is to correct keystoning in architecutural and product photography. I suppose you could use it to affect depth of field like you would with a view camera but it will have few applications there for landscape photography.

    Fine lenses but not an answer to dealing with wind.


  • oh wait, same dof with a larger aperture? . . . resulting in shorter shutter speeds, and less movement from wind?

    That's what I've been thinking. I can do pretty good snapping between gusts, but with the long shutter speeds, and especially multiple exposures I lose too often.







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